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    Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 6:10pm
Tonight was a challenge with our '98 Safari van. The misses said it was starting poorly. And it sounded like a weak battery...not much oomph.   Well...it is a Walmart battery...7 years old.

So I decide to change it myself...after getting a new one at the local NAPA. 

ROFL  I've got sore and bleeding knuckles and almost got my mouth washed out with soap.  And...the new battery is still not installed.  Wow.  My old Dakota is the only battery that is easy to change.

(Rounded bolt-head here, rusted tight bolt there. Funny thing is....the parts that are easy to get to are also in great shape; clean, no rust, et al.)
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 8:24pm
Went back out after supper and cooling off and gave it another go. Found a 1/4" ratchet and "star" socket that worked well on the problem negative bolt head.

Got it changed.

But no joy. Still no oomph.  Starter still sounds like it does when you're battery is about dead and just barely turns over.

 Sounds like a trip to the mechanics.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 9:04pm
When I got off work yesterday, I noticed my wife's van still in her workplace parking lot. I had hope that she was working a full day for a change. Nope. Wouldn't start..click...click.

My mechanic done good for working it in with their scheduled jobs. It now has a new starter.

I haven't double-checked online for pricing. They get their parts at the only parts store in town..NAPA...which is just usually very expensive.  But they said our Safari has a unique starter..about half the size of a normal starter at twice the normal cost.  (And with special reduction gears or some such to let it do it's job.)


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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 11:24pm
Don't they always have a "unique" part, unusual and out of the ordinary part when it comes to one you need.  Does NAPA shop have a service to diagnose some problems like electrical systems, batteries, etc.?  O'Reilly, Autozone, and some others have free check services.  The price of those "unique" parts can leave one scratching one's head in my experience.  Like "What tha ......"
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 3:35am
The local NAPA...I have no idea. It's not my favorite place. I'm not sure if it's NAPA in general, or just our local NAPA.  It does seem to take local businesses a long time to catch up to things outsiders offer.

I just think of it as that Swiss gene.  
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 4:21am
Rats, was hoping it was only a starter solenoid. Hate those "unique" parts.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 4:59am
Just checked prices on line. NAPA was in ballpark; more than some, less than others.

Advance Auto had some for about a hundred less. But...they were replacement ones (and I wasn't doing the work).  But not being an experience DIYer...reading the reviews/Q&A's....dunno. Some said..."installed no problem".

 Then there are those that said "need special inverted something-or-other too (ratchet set?)l to reach" bolts. 

And then of course was an answer in the Q&A section that said "shims may or may not be needed to work properly. If starter makes this noise while trying to start, add shims till it quits. If it makes a whine noise after starting...remove one shim at a time till whine quits."

No whine before my time I say...and let the garage do the dirty work! LOL
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 5:03am
Starters these days can be tricky. Don't know why, it's a pretty simple thing, but I wouldn't tackle it.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 5:36am
Lots of things are simple...except for the way they jam them in these days.  Even changing her air filter is a PITA.  And her spark plugs. Whoever heard of having to remove a panel in the floor to be able to get to half the plugs!!  (It  makes me appreciate my old '92 Dakota!)


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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 9:41am
Yeah, a spark plug change on the truck is a major deal. Fortunately they don't have to be changed out as frequently as they once did.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 10:06am
That's a good thing too! (I'm thinking of the 8 or so years that half our van plugs never got checked or changed.
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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 10:07am
Contrary to all the "horror stories" about inaccessible parts my plugs were overdue change and since they were no where in sight I had it done at the shop.  I watched and to my surprise found that on this car ('98 Dodge Intrepid 3.2 engine) it's a job I can do myself.  First vehicle in a while I can say that about.  Now the battery - that's another story and requires Sherlock to even find it.  Win some, lose some.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 10:17am
That would make a good contest...or scavenger hunt. Come up with a list of common parts...and see how many you (we) could find on our respective vehicles within "xxx" amount of time. LOL

I can't tell you how long I looked in my daughter's car last week to show her where the tire-inflation sticker was located.  I figured on the inside of the drivers side door frame. Nope. Nor passenger side. And not in the manual either.  But the manual did at least tell us where to look: on the underside of the trunk lid.  Cripes. 
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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 10:21am
That's real odd.  I don't think I've ever seen one anywhere other than the door post. 
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 10:29am
It was a learning experience for sure. Me...for finding the decal. And her for finding out the correct pressure. She's learning some of the basics as the mood strikes her (air pressure, fluids, stuff like that.)  She thought one tire looked "low" so she used one of those machines at a gas station and kinda eye-balled the tires (because the talking air-pressure gauge somebody gave her for Christmas wouldn't talk).

32 pounds for her car. One tire was close...the rest way over inflated. (And yep, I explained about engine weight making the front tires look like they were low).  (And I gave her a mute but easy to read regular tire gauge.)

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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 11:24am
Those are almost necessities for young people to know.  My 'other daughter' (unofficially adopted daughter) has changed her own oil since she was old enough to drive.  I'm not sure she is still doing that but she certainly knows how.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 11:45am
If you ever hear a very distinct distant WOW!! with a Hoosier accent down your way...you'll know my daughter changed her own oil and dad let out a prideful yell! (I don't do it anymore myself. Part laziness, nine parts disposal. I already have about 10 gallons of used oil for mowers and tillers to find a home for. Sigh. I experimented burning a small amount a year or two ago...very very smoky.)
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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 12:44pm
I changed my own for the longest until WM opened their new Super Center here (a long time ago now) and the Auto Center had $17 oil changes, including Pennzoil and filter.  Inflation creep has taken it's toll and that's now up to over $30 so I went back to self change the last two.  I have several gallons of used oil sitting around here also.  I used to use that in my chain saw oiler but graduated up to the real stuff.  A little is still handy to have around.
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 1:01pm
Hehe, I draw the line at changing the oil in the mower and shredder, etc. Just too easy to go to the quick change place and not all that expensive if I save coupons.
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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 3:21pm
The shops around here just don't give coupons.  Priced up in the $40s I think.  My daughter has gotten extravagant since she is earning a paycheck - Took it to a quick-lube and synthetic  oil totalled around $75 or $80.
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