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    Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 8:40am

The new civility.

Unions Aim to Disrupt Wisconsin Vote Today

“This is war. This is a class war that has been leveled against the working people of this country,” Moore told anchor Rachel Maddow.

What is with this "working people" stuff? Just drives me nuts, what the heck is it that I do that isn't work and doesn't making me a working person? When I pay so much in taxes and my property taxes are so high that I have to move just in order to keep others in a means that I can't keep for myself how is that not war on me?

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, they co-op words that are their own PC speak but still, drives me nuts.
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Breaking fast.

Half of Capitol Controlled by Protesters, 'No One Is Safe,' National Guard Option 'On the Table'

Unnamed source so hard to say. Watching video on TV right now and it looks nasty but again that could be just a small area being focused on.

We are Greece.
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Capitol Chaos: Lawmakers Getting Death Threats


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DUers Go Berserk Over WI Senate Vote But Produce Memorable Quote

My fave:

"I’d almost be willing to get a job in order to participate in A NATIONAL GENERAL STRIKE."
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Budget standoff moves to the Assembly (Not a lot new in this article that hasn't been in others).

I doubt they'll be able to start the scheduled session @ 11 today. Ah, just said on TV that it ain't gonna happen as the demonstrators are blocking the entrances...situation quite tense as the demonstrators are trying to lock the doors. As best as I can tell from the TV video the protesters are quite young, not old enough to be teachers/hold jobs. Also noticed this from the link article:

"We're prepared to do whatever it takes to kill the bill or shut it down," said Daniel Ginsberg of Milwaukee, an organizer with Students for a Democratic Society.

The usual commie suspects.

Also note from other articles that the cops are not exactly doing their job. In fact it looks to me that they pretty much just rolled over last night when the building was stormed. Could it be because they're union members?

To heck with the Greece thing, we're now under mob rule.
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Fox reporting protesters being dragged out of the assembly room. Not seeing it on the video.

Also that protesters are trapping GOP lawmakers in offices. 

If true and if kidnapping is forcible restraint or unlawful imprisonment then I think it's time for the National Guard to clean the place up as well as time for the Justice Department to start prosecution.
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GOP's shenanigans in Wisconsin ensure the fight will only escalate

GOP shenanigans? GOP shenanigans?!! Man, these people get only the very best dope.
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The Rev. Jackson on TV right now. He ain't black, he's red.
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Jackson: "REVOLT!"
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Hehe gun on TV re: the above.

"Bring it on".
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Police carry protesters out of Wisconsin capitol

Can't really tell that's happening from the video, looks like the same group of kids. The above is only notable for this:

Taylor Tengwall, 21, of Duluth, Minn., said, “They grabbed me by the shoulders and took me out.”

Yup, just more of the usual suspects. Imported commies who don't have jobs, just need something to do.
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Boy, I'm not keeping up with my thoughts while reading your posts. You've been a very busy boy today. ROFL  I love this:
"This just isn’t the way a thoughtful democratic institution governs," said Jauch, D-Poplar.
That's from one of the awol democrats. Yeah...running away to another state is you democrats govern. 

ROFL  I was just thinking (before reading your comment about Greece) that I'm getting to save lots of money...but still get to be in a third world country with a dysfunctional political parties, selfish socialist unions whose only concern is their own "gimme". Just like being in Iraq, Greece, Italy or any other number of places.
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These people just believe in mob rule.
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It's rather interesting. These type folks have painted the entire Tea Party as "extreme" because of a few isolated actions of a few people.

Yet the unions are protesting that their entire group is being vilified because of the actions of a few. Like this yesterday: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/27153135/detail.html
Or the day before from Columbus (Ohio capital) of union protesters grabbing cellphones/cameras away from people who were filming.
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Posts: 29352 		  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 3:37am
One thing that's always bothered me about unions is this "support the middle class" thing.

By default, they are no better than the rich who they attack.  Not only do they expected people who are better off to support their lifestyle...but also people who are poorer. What about them (us...me)?

I mentioned in another thread about years back seeing "Union Made" labels on stuff in stores. And I'd laugh...because I'd think..."And...so....do they expect me to pay 50 percent....twice....sometimes more....just for that union label?! I don't think so."

And what about vehicles? Construction (housing) workers. Plumbers. On and on.  Folks like me have to pay for their middle class lifestyle? Actually...we do...whether we want to or not.  (Or, use backyard mechanics, backyard plumbers, electricians, et al.)

I'm not envious. Just tired of all their whining.
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Good video. All is now clear:

YouTube - Andrew Klavan: Behold! Your Public Sector Unions at Work.
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Good one.
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The Fort Wayne liberal newspaper had coverage of the Thursday union rally in Indianapolis.

Organizers said they had between 15-20,000 people there. State police say 8,000.  (They were sure they would have a much larger crowd than the 20k in 1995...the last rally.)

The paper covered some local people who traveled to Indy. (1,000 from Ft. Wayne, bused in. Made me wonder if conservatives who travel have the advantage of arranged transportation...or if they have to do it individually...out of their own pocket.)

They quoted several workers main objections to our "anti-union" state government.  What the union members object to...are the things I find most objectionable and abhorrent about uinions:

The most distasteful, they say, is the right-to-work legislation...


and another..

...the common construction wage (on public projects).


and lastly

“It’s all about political dollars. This is a flat-out attack .....on labor unions giving money to Democrats.”


I'll bet if you ask the 95 percent or so or workers who are non-union workers...few have sympathy for those three areas...
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Re: number 3. Like people who don't think they pay enough in taxes there's nothing stopping them from sending more money. They just don't like the idea that people won't be _forced_ to contribute to the dims.
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That was my thought exactly. Most employers in this computerized age offer direct electronic deductions from paychecks. 

And the other two...I can't believe that forced union membership is legal. Just boggles my mind.

And this wage thing...sounds like a protecting the old buggy whip makers scam.  Fort Wayne had an example of that a while back and I'm not sure how it turned out. A local college that was building on. Can't remember the details, but the local unions were having a snit-fit. 

The college was saving something like 4 or 5 million in wages.  Either they hired a non-union construction firm...or they got the board that determined the wages to use a different figure.  There was a big discussion (fight) over fair "local" wages. (Oh...yeah...the unions were demanding that only union firm wages be used when determining the local fair wage.  Even though the majority of construction outfits in the area are non-union.)
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