USA violence (unions gone wild)

These public employees are already protected by Civil Service rights on a lot of the issues they are hollerin' about but they want a double layer of protection.  It's all about the money obviously.  No unions for public employees!

It's nasty down in the trenches.

And wow, does that "it's for the children" raise my hackles. They could give a rip about kids.

Forgot this one:(And it's surprised me...for a Yahoo based one)

Is Ohio Senate Bill 5 a Partisan Measure Influenced by Political Donations? - Yahoo! News

It is no wonder AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka is permitted to visit the White House two to three times per week, while some staffers had been out of contact with the administration for two years.

I am not at all surprised. 

Looks like the iPOTUS just couldn't keep his thoughts to himself again today.  (He'd better hope Federal employees don't decide to unionize and go on strike...)

Anyhow...what does Wisconsin Gov. Walker think about Obama's comments:

Gov. Scott Walker on Monday afternoon responded to comments President Barack Obama made earlier in the day about the protests in Madison: Walker’s office issued this statement: “I'm sure the President knows that most federal employees do not have collective bargaining for wages and benefits while our plan allows it for base pay. And I'm sure the President knows that the average federal worker pays twice as much for health insurance as what we are asking for in Wisconsin. At least I would hope he knows these facts. “Furthermore, I’m sure the President knows that we have repeatedly praised the more than 300,000 government workers who come to work every day in Wisconsin. “I’m sure that President Obama simply misunderstands the issues in Wisconsin, and isn’t acting like the union bosses in saying one thing and doing another.”

I expect the Obamanators plan is to unionize all the federal workers next.

There is no right to collective bargaining
(The above is a editorial, not the Christie clip. I thought after posting...it might be confusing...so the explanation.)

I watched a clip of Christie on Face the Nation.

"What I believe in is true, adversarial collective bargaining," he said on "Face the Nation." "What I've said in New Jersey is, as long as it's fair and reasonable collective bargaining." He added, however, that he did not believe collective bargaining rights for public employees were a given. "Listen, all these rights are legislatively created," he said. "They didn't come down from tablets at the top of a mountain. So political things change and go back and forth. Every state is going to make their own determination on that."

What an educational experience...this public union thing.  So many tunnels to follow once falling down the rabbit hole.  And I've decided that I'm fine with public workers unions, providing their employers get to have a direct say on the details of their contracts, pay, benefits, retirement packages....everything. And by employers, I don't mean other employees, i.e., politicians. I mean the voters. Put it on the ballot at election time.

If they did...I bet it would blow the CBS poll out of the water that says two-thirds of Americans support public workers unions...and think their wages and benefits are fair.  I'm betting voting on raises and raises taxes to pay for them would turn out much different than a poll with leading questions...and from what I understand...leading questions and a high number of union members.

I didn't see the polls, just the results. And the way the results are worded...I can pretty well guess how the questions were worded. "Rights"  But as Chris Christie said Sunday on an interview show...these "rights" didn't come down from a mountain top inscribed on tablets. They were politically given...and change back and forth over time.

If the poll question would ask if states should take rights away from public employees...most people I think will answer "no"....just because of the word "rights".

I think if most people saw the details and results of these "rights"...they'd have a fit. The devil is in the details.

Ask if public employees are getting a fair wage and benefits...and again I think most people will say "yes".  But publish the details...and a lot would change their mind.  Ask if they would be willing to pay higher taxes to support those folks...and I bet a whole lot more would change their mind.

Looks like other places having challenges also:

FoxNews.com - Rhode Island Teachers to Rally in Protest Over Mass Pink Slips