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Karl_db
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Topic: Global Warming...Posted: 14 May 2008 at 5:05pm |
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As often as we discuss it, thought it deserved it's own topic.
Interesting European viewpoint here.
Ran into the above while searching for more info about:
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 5:06pm |
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$150 billion clean technologies fund?
You 'n me. |
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 15 May 2008 at 1:11pm |
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Here ya be:
Mankind is the 'Earth's biggest threat' Get rid of humans and this would be a nice planet to live on. Uh.... |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2008 at 1:08pm |
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t'aint no laughing matter. Here at Scarborough we're losing houses to the sea at an ever increasing rate. In fact the whole coast of Yorkshire is retreating ever faster, and before long whole communities will be lost.
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 18 Jun 2008 at 1:14pm |
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alf - The laugh part is that humans are causing it. I live in an area that was once completely covered by what is now the Gulf of Mexico. Dig into the limestone and you'll find fossils of sea creatures. Just north of me was the souther edge of the Artic ice cap. Weather happens. It gets colder, it gets warmer, it floods, there's a drought. Things change because that is the great cycle of nature, not because I drive a pickup. Now that's NOT to say that there isn't a lot to be said for conservation, I just don't like people trying to sucker me into it so they can line their pockets. |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 18 Jun 2008 at 2:49pm |
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Well. My memory is fuzzy. Assuming that the entire world was a Garden of Eden original...maybe ice caps and such isn't the "natural" order of the world? (Just a wild thought.)
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Karl_db
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 6:11am |
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While channel surfing last night I came across a Hal Lindsey program. It caught my ear as it was talking about climate change and such. Tried to find a transcript of it online, but no such luck.
Actually it was a kind of a "thinking" segment. How much is "global warming aka Al Goreness" and how much is just naturally occurring changes. And how much is due just to modern communications. (In olden days...folks wouldn't hear about natural disasters until years or decades later. Today...we watch it while it's happening. So...it just 'seems' the world is worse today than yesterday.) It wasn't an extreme show...more of a "think for yourselves" show. (Encouraged people to look to climate history over the centuries rather than 30 second media sound bytes before making global conclusions. ) He did mention a climate change prediction from the seventies that is interesting. I think it may have been mentioned before, but it's still interesting. |
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 6:18am |
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Hehe, I have a scan of that original article that I pull out every once in a while and show off. I do have a memory of when the article came out and if it's a good memory that was a cover article. Made quite an impact on me at the time since I'm not a fan of cold weather. In fact I think it's scared me quite a bit. Anywho here's a clip of the graphics that were included in the original article. |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 6:38am |
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Interesting pattern. Lindsey on his show mentioned (with current storms) that some areas are affected more often than others by violent changes. Like the American Mid-West. Looks like your map supports that.
Can't remember where I read about retreating glaciers. It was interesting what all they are finding beneath them. (Some of which we've discussed before...like warm weather tree stumps.) I guess they've found a lot of "warm weather" things below glaciers...(including lightly dressed bodies) that is puzzling. (Because it suggests that the climate change to freezing temps, snow, and glaciers happened extremely fast...not at a slow snails pace over tens of thousands of years. |
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 6:51am |
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Managed to find a few radishes big enough to pull last night. The white icicle ones...gee...couldn't even cut the suckers with a steak knife. (Gotta remember to sharpen them I reckon. LOL) And the normal red ones...well...if they ain't named "Fireball"...they should be! My honey couldn't handle more than one bite either. ROFL
Don't look like I'll make much progress on getting the front lawn finished this weekend. (Hope all the peat moss don't wash away while waiting.) I emptied the rain gauge last night before leaving town; about 1.75 inches in the last couple of days. After getting back from Wal-Mart in Decatur (12 miles away) our towns streets and such was dry...but we had flooded intersections and little ponds in low areas. My first instinct was...maybe they were cleaning out the fire hydrants. So I checked my rain gauge. ROFL Sometime in the 2 hours I was gone...another inch of rain. (My honey said it all came down in just a few minutes...sheets of water.) I'll box up what I can and mail it to ya for your lawn in Austin... |
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 3:18pm |
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Please do! We do have a 30% chance tomorrow. I'm hoping. I found this interesting if not for any other reason than we still don't know a lot about weather. |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 4:21pm |
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I'm getting ready to go back outside and try to finish mowing. Started this morning...and that's all it took to start more torrential downpours. (I noticed our mailman is starting to look like part mail-fish. LOL)
Instead of sending you a box of rain...maybe a direct pipeline. |
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 5:59pm |
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Man, youse guys have been hammered this year, kind of like we were last year.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2008 at 8:08am |
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Bob
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Posted: 29 Jun 2008 at 8:21am |
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Well Yahoo! Got some rain overnight. I dont' know how much yet but enough to help for awhile it looks like.
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 29 Jun 2008 at 8:32am |
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Mallard must read these boards. Saw you on the radar Bob, hopefully it'll hold together until it gets down here but it looks like it's falling apart. |
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 23 Jul 2008 at 5:10pm |
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Mebbe it's hot lap dances that are causing global warming? Lawyer Is Accused of Using Reform Group to Launder Money From Strip Club Here's the payoff.
Imagine that, a strip club where more goes on than stripping. Not that I'd know, but I'd always heard.... (Seriously I've never been to a strip club). |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 03 Aug 2008 at 9:29pm |
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I'm watching the definitive answer to global warming as I type: Aliens!!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0925245/ .....aliens who are propelling global warming to make Earth habitable for their species. D.B. Sweeney, Danica McKellar. Directed by Andrew Prowse. |
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Randy
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Posted: 09 Aug 2008 at 9:29am |
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LOL!
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Karl_db
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008 at 4:46am |
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FWIW: It's a really bad movie...special effects wise.
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Randy
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Posted: 10 Aug 2008 at 7:12am |
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The version of Ivanhoe we've been watching uses a few "special effects" that make me laugh out loud every time.
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Karl_db
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Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 9:39pm |
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Posted: 05 Sep 2008 at 10:33pm |
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Link wouldn't work for me Karl but no matter. We humans do contribute to global warming I am sure but I think it's in a small way and the real culprit, if you could call it that, is "the cycle". Or cycles. All on earth cycles. The climate, the continents, the mountains, the rivers. The sun cycles. Hurricanes cycle as do droughts and wet years. Climate cycles like warm to cooler and vice versa and in huge chunks, not just in few year increments. And I don't think I'm saying what you don't know already know. This has all been said many times before so I'm just rattling here. It's so intertwined and complicated that it boggles my mind as it seems to do to many specialist/scientist in the various fields also.
The end results are: Al Gore is full of horse manure!
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 06 Sep 2008 at 1:23am |
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I've been doing some reading on the Maunder Minimum and the last "little ice age" and I gotta tell ya, there's a lot to be said for global warming. Some say it'd be a lot worse but I'm guessing with modern transportation it's doubtful if we'd have the same level of famine experienced in the last "little ice age" but still, around the world some larger number of people than at present would starve to death. |
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Posted: 06 Sep 2008 at 4:58am |
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Oops. Must of forgotten to stick the link in there. It's fixed. And here it is again:
Melting Swiss glacier reveals secrets. Wow. Surprise...it's been warm before. Wonder what they blamed it on thousands of years ago? Farting mammoths? |
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 06 Sep 2008 at 5:07am |
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Wow, great story. There have been a lot of pretty extreme weather cycles and I don't think it's any secret but I guess it doesn't go along with man made climate change so it's rarely mentioned. |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 06 Sep 2008 at 5:16am |
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Oh...I do believe in human effects on climate change. No doubt about it. But...how much? There's so many variables in play. Especially considering how much climate changes by itself.
What gets me are two things: A. The real green folks make it sound like the only thing causing climate change are...people. B. And...well gee...they also seem think that the only good and perfect world is one that is not affected by people. And you know what that means? Yep....no humans and the cockroaches take over. |
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Posted: 07 Nov 2008 at 5:03pm |
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RIP Michael Crichton. Perhaps one of the best yet ever on globull warming. |
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Posted: 07 Nov 2008 at 7:37pm |
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Sheesh - I think globull cooling has set in personally. Y'all see the news about the blizzard in N. and S. Dakota today? And here it's getting chilly. I'm actually thinking of building a fire in the fireplace tonight. Not that cold (low 40s by morning) but the kids are coming up and it's kinda for them plus use a little of that Ike generated firewood. :o)
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Posted: 07 Nov 2008 at 7:41pm |
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Didn't realize he started off so young. Very accomplished fellow.
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Posted: 09 Nov 2008 at 8:45am |
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Ah! Scream!! There's little white things falling from the sky!! The sky is falling!
(As long as it doesn't get like Deadwood South Dakato...which got 45 inches a few days ago.) |
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Posted: 09 Nov 2008 at 11:18am |
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You're done for to be sure. None of that here, we've got rain in the forecast for the next three days and warmer temps as well (overnight lows in the 60s vs. the mid 40s). |
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Posted: 09 Nov 2008 at 1:07pm |
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Your lows is higher than our highs for the next...uh oh...just checked the long range forecast. Looks like till next spring.
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Posted: 10 Nov 2008 at 5:15am |
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Now that sounds a bit cold.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2009 at 7:00am |
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Here's a great dea;! E.P.A. Expected to Regulate Carbon Dioxide If your social security number ends in an even number you can exhale on a second that ends with an even number and if it ends in an odd number.... Office breath watches will be distributed by the government free to those that don't work. For those that have a job they will cost $500. If you breath out of cycle there will be a $1.00 carbon exhale out of cycle excise tax. |
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Posted: 19 Feb 2009 at 12:59pm |
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That sounds like it belongs right next to the Truth Commission.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2009 at 1:06pm |
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In thinking about your daughters bycycle trip I wonder if you'd have to pay more when you exercise since you're putting out more carbon dioxide?
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Posted: 19 Feb 2009 at 1:27pm |
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Ouch. That would only be fair!!
Oh dear. Wonder how that would affect me on days like yesterday? Had a Mexican meal the night before and I must confess, I didn't even like being around myself. (And no GaxX or anything stashed away.) |
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Proving once again that God has a sense of humor. Pelosi Snowed-Out of Global Warming Rally Reality is a brute. |
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Pretty hard when truth just slams you right in the face.
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But it's even worse! Physician Declares Global Warming Will Cause Sharp Rise in Kidney Stones Is there anything that GW doesn't cause? |
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Posted: 03 Mar 2009 at 10:32am |
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Strange. That's a new article by the date, but when I googled "kidney stone belt" it's old news, dating back to July 2008.
Interesting, there is a Kidney Stone Belt
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My take on kidney stones in that area of the country is the high consumption of soft drinks and specifically coke, which, I have heard, causes kidney stones. When I lived in Georgia I was amazed by the number of people that had a coke for breakfast. They thought it was perfectly normal and routine. Throw in a Goodie powder and they were in heaven. |
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Speaking of soft drinks I saw bits of an ABC special recently about the mountain folk in Appalachia. Seems they are all addicted to, logically ... what else?, Mountain Dew! Plays hob with teeth.
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I was thinking a load of suger and caffeine but I be wrong. Caffeine Content Of Popular Drinks A 12 glass of tea has more! Wow, and I thought that tea was a low caffeine drink. And speaking of coke here in Texas it used to be a BC powder but I hardly seem them any longer, can't remember the last time but they still seem to be around. Another when I was a kid, and this was a real treat, was a coke with a bag of peanuts dumped in it. The salt seemed to turn it flat and it was almost like a non-carbonated soda fountain coke. And man could I tell the difference between a bottled coke and a soda fountain coke. Never figured why because surely the syrup was the same but there was a difference. Even so I'd take a cherry phosphate over a coke any day. Kids may have iPods but sheesh, they don't know what they're missing. |
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Posted: 03 Mar 2009 at 12:30pm |
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Just "Mountain Dew"?
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Actually, I can still tell the difference between a "can" and from the fountain. May not be able to side-by-side, but for some reason I sure can when we go out. "Canned" Coke about gags me; just does. But, I can handle Coke from a foutain when we go out to eat. Not sure why. Otherwise, I'm a Pepsi guy.
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I was thinking of one made with syrup and water right at the counter by a soda jerk and not mixed automatically out of canisters. In thinking about it I suspect it was probably a result of the soda jerk putting in just a shade more syrup either on purpose or because the delivery wasn't that exact. Dunno why but non-carboniated was always more fun than carbonated, maybe because it was different. |
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Ah. That's, uh, been a while since I've seen one of those. I think when I was a kid the Rexall (sp?) drug store uptown had a soda fountain.
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