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    Posted: 14 Oct 2011 at 6:50pm
Hmmm...no way. I know Pig Pen.  He's a very old friend...and he wouldn't be caught dead at OWS! LOL (He might be dirty on the outside...but he has a clean heart.)
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  Quote Randy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2011 at 8:18am
So true.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 3:48pm
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 4:14pm
A raw, raw deal.
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  Quote Randy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 6:11pm
And they gave the drug smuggler immunity! Unbelievable.  And the blasted officials who sold guns to the drug dealers?!  They are protected and no where near going to jail.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:13am
And this is why I just hesitate...for the best of causes...for the federal government to get involved in fairness issues. Nothing is beyond their definition of the right to get involved:
Feds Say They Have 'Express Authority' To Investigate Alabama Public Schools Over Immigration
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 10:36am

Rightly or wrongly the DOJ does have the right to investigate civil rights violations...of both citizens and non-citizens at least per the courts. 

They have held that based on:

"Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws"

That's "any person" not "any citizen". Frankly I think it's probably a good way to go, the problem is that the feds refuse to uphold the immigration laws.

Based on that and his oath to upload the laws of the US Holder should be in jail or impeached.

THAT'S the way to go.

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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 2:07pm
Leadership starts at the top. I'd start with Holder's boss. 
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 2:11pm

That'd be a start but when you look at the oath they all take I think it's safe to say that _at least_ the last three presidents should have been either in prison or thrown out of office. That oath thing just doesn't seem to mean much.


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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 2:30pm
Somehow I doubt if our founders wrote the 14th Amendment to mean how it's used today.

Oh wait...the founders didn't write it.

Even though...it's like a Bible verse if it's read in it's entirety and in light of its historical significance.

It begins (section 1) by defining citizenship. (To correct various laws restricting the rights of former slaves.)

Even so...if the 14th applied to "any person" rather than "any citizen"...then the government should apply it consistently instead of willy-nilly as is convenient. (For example...foreign terrorists.)
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2011 at 4:08pm
Thus the benefit of Gitmo.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2011 at 3:57am
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 3:03am
It's amazing how some other countries handle possible immigrants. We seem to let anybody in regardless of status and they are more than welcome to go on our welfare programs.

We had my in-laws Christmas dinner. One couple are school teachers and active in church stuff. Their one daughter is currently in Europe on a year-long mission type trip. Lives in France with a host family, but is part of a large group of youngsters.  They have to raise their own financial support to participate in the program.

But...there's a time limit in France. I can't remember if it's 30 days or 60. But an "extended" visit requires all types of proof of financial independence or support for their visa to be approved. Bank statements. IRS records for "x" number of years.  Criminal background check stuff.  (And that's on the parents...not just the college student.)

It was a "WOW" moment for us. 
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 3:05am
Oh...the "WOW" moment for us is because of one course our youngun is taking in college. One requirement to pass the course is an "internship" of a minimum of 30 days "overseas".  Same kind of program...participating in a program that works with the truly needy and impoverished someplace.
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  Quote Bob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 3:14am
Our daughter attended the U. of London for a couple of courses in the early 80s.  I can't recall the duration but it was more than a month and no issues like that came up.  Maybe the massive immigration of Muslims into European countries has given cause for crackdown.  France has always been pretty odd and quirky about their sovereignty.
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 3:18am
HeeHee  I've always thought of France as pretty odd and quirky about almost everything.  Wink
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 6:04am
Yup, in order to get into France you have to be.....German. (Sorry, couldn't help it).
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 2:28pm
How about half-german?
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  Quote Karl_db Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 2:29pm
And don't ya dare ask which half...
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  Quote Don Watkins Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 2:35pm

France and Germany always reminds me of one of my favorite jokes about the French: Why did the French plant trees along side their roads?

So the Germans could march in the shade.

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