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Karl_db
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Topic: Price of gas around the worldPosted: 28 Apr 2008 at 5:04pm |
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Don't burn your food?? That might be the least of our worries. How about...don't burn the oceans? (Video)
Text info: http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=41838 Dunno. This almost seems deja vu. Maybe posted in the old forum? |
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 5:08pm |
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Seems like I'd read about it before. Didn't find an update but I did find this comment on it:
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Karl_db
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 9:14pm |
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$200 a barrel? And it's our fault says OPEC head.
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Bob
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Posted: 28 Apr 2008 at 10:13pm |
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Actually I think he's pretty correct. Not that it's directly our fault but the fault of the fall of the dollar. And speculators of course. At least that's the way I see it. As said many times before I'm not the shinest silver dollar in the economic field but anyway, judging from what I've read a lot of the high price of oil is tied to fall of the dollar.
And I did see one fellow, when speaking of $200 oil, say that that would translate into $10 gasoline.
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Karl_db
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 6:56pm |
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Ah...fuel problem solved.
Oh...did anybody else see the stuff on the news, last night(?), with some farmer types testifying before Congress? The little I saw they were emphasizing "field corn"...and something about burning your food. Some farm congressman even showed an ear of corn, plucked a couple of kernnels and said something about it not being people food...people don't eat field corn. (Something along the lines that gowning corn for ethanol has nothing to do with the price of groceries.) Well, duh. Gee...how dumb do they thing we are. Lots of other things eat field corn...that we eat (beef). Or drink (milk). And they wind up planting less of other grains in order to grown more field corn. Less wheat, hay, etc. |
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Bob
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Posted: 02 May 2008 at 8:00pm |
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I thought it when reading but you already said it and that's absolutely true what you say. What a statement from that congressperson .... corn is not just for corn on the cob at dinner. There is cornmeal, corn syrup, corn sweetners, more corn products and byproducts that I can think of at the moment. I would think that field corn is the major crop and sweet corn (table food) just a tiny portion of the overall corn crop. Dumb!
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 2:20am |
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Yup, corn is used for a lot of stuff and even if was only feed corn that causes the price of meat to go up. Sheesh.
Plus from what I understand a lot of land that is otherwise used for wheat is now being used to grow....corn. But of course the real problem are subsidies which need to be cut out yesterday. I do understand why they are done but still, paying through the nose not to grow stuff is nuts. |
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Randy
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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 6:09pm |
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When I was still in high school I got the impression that at one time subsidies were Mississippi's biggest crop.
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Karl_db
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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 7:03pm |
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Maybe I could be a successful farmer after all?
Just read another story kind of along the same vein. (Land switching to better cash crops.) Ah. Found it: From rice to rubber. Just a thought. Wish I'd live a lot longer than I will...along with maybe Michael Moore. They've bashed the U.S. for over-consuming, underpaying, pollution, OSHA and EPA related stuff, and countless other abuses. Now China is just starting to awaken. And it's hungry. (China 1.3 Billion vs U.S. 300 million.) Wonder if these same U.S. bashers will pick on China after a while. (The latest National Geographic (May 2008 China on the Move) has a reather lengthy feature on China's economic expansion and challenges.) |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 10 May 2008 at 5:33am |
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Some interesting "facts" about ethanol. Wonder if the guy is correct or not?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/time_to_rethink_food_for_fuel.html |
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Posted: 10 May 2008 at 6:53am |
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I would tend to believe the article. It's not the first I've read about how much petro based fuel it takes to make a gal. of ethynol. And it also takes a ton of water so I read (figuratively speaking). Those things alone makes corn ethynol a dumb idea IMO. As much oil as we run thru daily I just can't see growing enuf corn to help the situation anyway.
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 10 May 2008 at 7:02am |
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Giveaway of our money to agriculture.
We let Congress take out money and dole it out we get what we deserve. I sure would like to see the part of the constitution that authorizes them to do farm subsidies. |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 10 May 2008 at 9:18pm |
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Interesting. With some apparently it's not the subsidies, rather the ROI. (A little dated...from 2005...from some background papers I was reading while looking up ethanol subsidies):
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Posted: 12 May 2008 at 4:44pm |
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Hope I'm not repeating myself. Front page news in the County newspaper today:
With rising food prices, the Holy Grail (Ethanol) is being questioned. Finding that online also found the following from our Canadian neighbors: Time to kill corn ethanol and go Brazilian (Sugarcane based) |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:12pm |
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The news media keeps reporting the "average" price of regular is now $3.6x. I wish. Hey, what can I say...we're just above average here. It was $3.87...now $3.95. We're doing fewer and fewer trips.
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Bob
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:21pm |
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Yeah, my driving habits are changing a bit now also. I don't do the impulse trips to town just for the heck of it now (18 mile roundtrip) .... or rarely anyway. And I am trying to consolidate chores with the fewer trips.
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Karl_db
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 2:33pm |
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Huh?? Wonder who wrote this "Why gas prices need to stay high" opinion.
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Don Watkins
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 2:36pm |
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Who?
A whack job that hates civilization and wants everybody to live in mud huts. That is, of course, the motive of the whole global warming is caused by humans thing. If we only went back to living in mud huts and scrounging for berries then we'd be in tune with nature. |
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Karl_db
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Posted: 16 May 2008 at 6:47pm |
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It was kind of an interesting news show with the Saudi oil guy this evening. Something to the effect of they are producting all the oil their customers have asked for. They can't produce more oil without having someplace to send it.
Hmm. Makes ya wonder.
Rest of the article here: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004418263_saudi16.html |
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Posted: 16 May 2008 at 11:54pm |
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Hmm, I've seen the news items about the Pres., with hat in hand, asking the Saudis to pump more. I wouldn't think he'd want this public if it weren't necessary but what do I know? Interesting article and complicated facts. There's a lot of chatter about the "greenies" effect on our own exploration and production. I don't know where this will go and don't know the answer for sure but it's definitely hurtful to our economy . And all our checkbooks. I've had exploration companies shoot lines across my property and I could hope they'd come back and find a prospect then maybe I could forget all the peons.
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